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Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSat Nov 08, 2014 9:59 pm

After spamming a lot here (viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3074&start=75), let's keep on talking here!

So far my prefered PB 2vs2 Mixed Cup System is (with examples):

Settings (different to PCL):
- Gametype: to be decided (viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3079)
- Points: to be decided (viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3079)
- Top2 go to next round. Bottom 2 to "losers round" (fight for place 17-32)

Stage 1a) Sign Up (2 weeks)
example: 30 players

Stage 1b) Send Seeding Suggestions (2 weeks+2 days)
- rank active PB players from Place 1 to 32; add players to the list, if some are missing
example:

[edit: i didn't know/forgot Luka M.=Pewex, so: if anyone sends "ranking votes", consider that please]

Tijny 1
Fama 2
Badeend 4
Sig 7
Palo 3
Dede 8
Kapa 6
Rub 5
Jan 11
StealthBD 9
Olio 12
Xzeal 14
Lavon 16
Mike Nike 10
Luka 15
Oompa 17
Kyna 13
Jurgen 18
Whiplash 26
Pewex 19
Reirom 25
RSX 22
Hejman 23
Muffin 28
Popowitch 29
Arsen 27
Shyguy 24
Szymek 21
Fatty 20
Etmil 30

Example of "weighted" rankings as pre-seeding (average rank, weighted by votes of: example 95% Fama, 51% Mike, 36% Reirom):
1 A Tijny
2 A Fama
3 A Badeend
4 A Palo
5 A Sig
6 A Rub
7 A Kapa
8 A Dede
9 B StealthBD
10 B Jan
11 B Olio
12 B Mike Nike
13 B Xzeal
14 B Lavon
15 B Kyna
16 B Luka
17 C Oompa
18 C Jurgen
19 C Pewex
20 C Reirom
21 C RSX
22 C Whiplash
23 C Hejman
24 C Fatty
25 D Szymek
26 D Shyguy
27 D Muffin
28 D Arsen
29 D Popowitch
30 D Etmil
31 D Group2.3rd
32 D Group1.3rd


Stage 2) Seeding (live at the LVP server for example)

Example Seeding:
S T Player Seed
1 A Palo 4
2 A Badeend 3
3 A Sig 5
4 A Fama 2
5 A Tijny 1
6 A Dede 8
7 A Rub 6
8 A Kapa 7
9 B Olio 3
10 B Mike Nike 4
11 B Luka 8
12 B Xzeal 5
13 B Kyna 7
14 B Jan 2
15 B StealthBD 1
16 B Lavon 6
17 C Reirom 4
18 C Hejman 7
19 C Pewex 3
20 C RSX 5
21 C Jurgen 2
22 C Oompa 1
23 C Fatty 8
24 C Whiplash 6
25 D Muffin 3
26 D Szymek 1
27 D Etmil 6
28 D Popowitch 5
29 D Arsen 4
30 D Shyguy 2
31 D Group2.3rd 7
32 D Group1.3rd 8



Group Player A Player B Player C Player D
Group 1 Palo Olio Reirom Muffin
Group 2 Badeend Mike Nike Hejman Szymek
Group 3 Sig Luka Pewex Etmil
Group 4 Fama Xzeal RSX Popowitch
Group 5 Tijny Kyna Jurgen Arsen
Group 6 Dede Jan Oompa Shyguy
Group 7 Rub StealthBD Fatty Group2.3rd
Group 8 Kapa Lavon Whiplash Group1.3rd

Stage 3) Groups Round 1 Scheduling and Game Week(s)

Example:

Schedule Left Side Left Side Right Side Right Side
Format 1 4 vs 2 3
Format 1 3 vs 2 4
Format 1 2 vs 3 4
Format 2 3 vs 1 4
Format 2 4 vs 1 3
Format 3 4 vs 1 2
Group 1 Palo Muffin vs Olio Reirom
Group 1 Palo Reirom vs Olio Muffin
Group 1 Palo Olio vs Reirom Muffin
Group 1 Olio Reirom vs Palo Muffin
Group 1 Olio Muffin vs Palo Reirom
Group 1 Reirom Muffin vs Palo Olio
Group 2 Badeend Szymek vs Mike Nike Hejman
Group 2 Badeend Hejman vs Mike Nike Szymek
Group 2 Badeend Mike Nike vs Hejman Szymek
Group 2 Mike Nike Hejman vs Badeend Szymek
Group 2 Mike Nike Szymek vs Badeend Hejman
Group 2 Hejman Szymek vs Badeend Mike Nike
Group 3 Sig Etmil vs Luka Pewex
Group 3 Sig Pewex vs Luka Etmil
Group 3 Sig Luka vs Pewex Etmil
Group 3 Luka Pewex vs Sig Etmil
Group 3 Luka Etmil vs Sig Pewex
Group 3 Pewex Etmil vs Sig Luka
Group 4 Fama Popowitch vs Xzeal RSX
Group 4 Fama RSX vs Xzeal Popowitch
Group 4 Fama Xzeal vs RSX Popowitch
Group 4 Xzeal RSX vs Fama Popowitch
Group 4 Xzeal Popowitch vs Fama RSX
Group 4 RSX Popowitch vs Fama Xzeal
Group 5 Tijny Arsen vs Kyna Jurgen
Group 5 Tijny Jurgen vs Kyna Arsen
Group 5 Tijny Kyna vs Jurgen Arsen
Group 5 Kyna Jurgen vs Tijny Arsen
Group 5 Kyna Arsen vs Tijny Jurgen
Group 5 Jurgen Arsen vs Tijny Kyna
Group 6 Dede Shyguy vs Jan Oompa
Group 6 Dede Oompa vs Jan Shyguy
Group 6 Dede Jan vs Oompa Shyguy
Group 6 Jan Oompa vs Dede Shyguy
Group 6 Jan Shyguy vs Dede Oompa
Group 6 Oompa Shyguy vs Dede Jan
Group 7 Rub Group2.3rd vs StealthBD Fatty
Group 7 Rub Fatty vs StealthBD Group2.3rd
Group 7 Rub StealthBD vs Fatty Group2.3rd
Group 7 StealthBD Fatty vs Rub Group2.3rd
Group 7 StealthBD Group2.3rd vs Rub Fatty
Group 7 Fatty Group2.3rd vs Rub StealthBD
Group 8 Kapa Group1.3rd vs Lavon Whiplash
Group 8 Kapa Whiplash vs Lavon Group1.3rd
Group 8 Kapa Lavon vs Whiplash Group1.3rd
Group 8 Lavon Whiplash vs Kapa Group1.3rd
Group 8 Lavon Group1.3rd vs Kapa Whiplash
Group 8 Whiplash Group1.3rd vs Kapa Lavon


Scheduling the matches:

- The matches of one group could be played in 1 day in best case, but don't have to.
- Private messages via forum to other group members or just send "when you have time" to me (or whoever would host the cup) (so i can avoid double scheduling) or we find some sort of doodle (where you can more easily multiselect, when you have time to play). In best case i might receive something like an excel color matrix (example: http://mikenike.pf-control.de/ts/cups/p ... uling2.htm)

Stage 4) Groups Round 2 (Quarter Final) Seedings; Scheduling and Game Week(s)
- note: i'd prefer that 3rd and 4th places of each group would also create a challenge for place 17-32, basicly a parallel "losers cup", if you want so, from that point.
- seedings would now create groups of: 1122,1122,1122,1122, loser challenge: 3344,3344,3344,3344 (once again, seeding would be done at LVP Server live; players who played in the same group before, can't play in the same group again in this round)

Stage 5) Groups Round 3 (Semi Final) Seedings; Scheduling and Game Week(s)
- note: also here, there could be a challenge for place 9-16, so...all particpants will finish the cup with the same amount of matches

Stage 6) Groups Round 4 (Final) Seedings; Scheduling and Game Week(s)
Last edited by Mike Nike on Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:49 am, edited 7 times in total.
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSat Nov 08, 2014 11:09 pm

put me in 25 of 32......................mike.......... nike guys..... :mrgreen:
hard to get 32

put 16 or 20......

i am in in all puna cups...... already won one with eddie............ and made a hard game against palo fama.......

modric for me could be a........
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSat Nov 08, 2014 11:13 pm

Group 1 Palo Muffin vs Olio Reirom
Group 1 Palo Reirom vs Olio Muffin
Group 1 Palo Olio vs Reirom Muffin
Group 1 Olio Reirom vs Palo Muffin
Group 1 Olio Muffin vs Palo Reirom

2 players go next?

i can go in in this group........... :mrgreen:
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSun Nov 09, 2014 6:43 am

This could be a good and fun way to keep things alive here after PCL. Something new and fun. I'm up for it and ready to help in organizing if there's anything I can do. ^^
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSun Nov 09, 2014 8:33 am

I prefer a possibility to multiselect when scheduling.
Just like:

http://mikenike.pf-control.de/ts/cups/p ... uling2.htm

It took me less than a minute to schedule my own dates, i think.
And there were more colors to choose.
I would create 32 of those schedule blocks, everybody would just need to scrolldown to his nickname, select some cells and change the colorcode. It would automaticly value and color the groups prefered match dates.

@all
I haven't worked as admin in googledocs (or alternatives to handle online xls files or alternative spreadsheets), so i don't know if this is a serious alternative (where instead of 1 click on doodlelink, you'd need to login somewhere and probably navigate somewhere).
An alternative would be to just download the xls file (or a platform independent spreadsheet format - question: what would be one to cover all participants operation systems?) and edit it and send it back to me.
Any other ideas?
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSun Nov 09, 2014 9:45 am

mike really think i am 25 of 32? uhauhuhauhauhauhuhahuahuahuahauhuauhauahuahu

jan lets made it.....still i need to know better then rules mike dont explain.........

in the end this cup could a underdog win? more possible? no fun eddie won all time.

but brazilians punas>all
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSun Nov 09, 2014 10:17 am

edureirom wrote:mike really think i am 25 of 32? still i need to know better then rules mike dont explain.........


Rei: i voted myself place 14, you on 21. But i might still change my "vote" during next weeks. You can send me a list too (adding some brasilian players maybe), if you want. So far i just took your vote, with you on place 6.
Which rules have to be added? (yes, some are undecided yet - feel welcome to vote/suggest what you prefer)
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSun Nov 09, 2014 11:25 am

Nice idea Mike ;) . IM ready :D
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostSat Nov 22, 2014 4:19 pm

Very nice idea, i'm ready too :)
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostWed Jan 07, 2015 6:02 pm

Began? 8)
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostMon Jan 19, 2015 1:14 pm

hi Mike !

Im in! 8)
when began?
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostMon Jan 19, 2015 1:41 pm

The idea of a mixed puna cup does sound like fun but with 32 players scheduling matches etc that seems impossible to me.
16 players would work better i guess.
And even though i liked the PCL cup i think for future event i would prefer to play it all in 1 night, although with this idea that seems impossible either.

Also i don't think we even need seeding to begin with here if there would be a random group with Tijny, Mike,Palo,Badeend it could be quite interesting to see which 2 advance as the group skill is quite closely matched.
And therefor making other groups more balanced as well giving more chances for players with less lucky to progress further in the cup/league/tournament.
Dont beg for things do it yourself or else you wont get anything!!
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Re: Punaball 2vs2 Mixed Cup

PostTue Jan 20, 2015 10:58 am

i'm getting more in the mood of playing this in one evening.
something like saturday, around 2 hours after track change of hotlap competition server,
so there is enough time to warmup for pb and enough time to check out new track/car combinations.
so 20:00 CET id say.
LVP1 and 3.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3095&p=34906#p34906

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